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General » Kindergarten Fail!!! But not the end of the world!
Hi Megan,

The F visa is technically a "Business Visa" and apparently China is seriously tightening its rules about visas. I am sure you will be ok with an F visa, and Buckland has always been very professional in their dealings with not only teachers but also the government.

But, to all new grads this is something to consider. Gone are the days when teachers without degrees could find easy work in China. Now that the Chinese economy is booming more and more immigrants from all over the world are flooding to China in the hopes of securing jobs. It is going to be like most other countries, where only those with University degrees will be allowed to come to teach or even hold other non teaching jobs.

Personally I would say go for it now while you still can and enjoy the experience!

Have fun and don't worry so much! You will have a blast!
General » Zhuhai TPR
No harm no foul. I just want people to understand what they are getting into. I hate the thought of people thinking they can make almost half a million RMB as teachers here, especially if they are new. It is simply not realistic, regardless of experience.

Of course I have found that market myself and am doing well, but I also know MOST new grads look for jobs online and the really good opportunities online run around 4-10K maximum, the better deals only found once people arrive, get some experience and make local contacts. I started in China on 4K a month and it took me 4 years to find a "good job" which would never have been offered online. Had I not had a local recruiter helping me, I would never even have found that.

I prefer to tell new grads to find a job in a city that interests them, regardless of the salary, come over first and get that all important experience and THEN look for the dream jobs. They do exist, but I have never seen such an offering online.

I have had to explain to many many grads over the years that offers of 4-6K are perfectly normal to start off with, and that once here, with private students and the contacts you eventually make, the skies the limit.

But if you look at the Global TESOL students themselves, many many look online for jobs see the low salaries, especially when compared to their home countries, they get discouraged, and never leave home. Such a pity. I like to paint a more realistic picture so grads know that even though they may have to start with a lower salary, once they arrive and get some "China Time" under their belts, the sky is the limit. However if they wait at home, endlessly scouring the net for 30K jobs, they may never pack a suitcase.....
General » Zhuhai TPR
Hi Kiran,

I will use your name DIRECTLY this time as I did NOT personally attack you and did NOT direct my comments to you at all! Had you paid proper attention you would have noticed my comments were directed at Alastair, NOT you!

Glad to hear you are doing so well but please get off your high horse and step back a moment. NO ONE called you a liar and I am offended you would accuse me as saying so. If you follow my posts back 8 YEARS you will see I have been nothing but helpful and actually helped dozens of TESOL grads land work here, in fact the last 2 grads I helped are right here in SZ with me now, happily teaching along side me in the same company. Global TESOL has in fact given me free levels based on all the assistance I have given people. I tell people what they should expect, NOT what they should dream about.

Glad to hear you are doing so well for yourself and your friends who have found dream jobs. I never said they didn't exist, just that I had NEVER heard of anyone having such a high paying job as a teacher in China. And I have been here more than 8 years.

Please keep your baseless accusations to yourself or I will be forced to bring your comments to the attention of Global TESOL.

General » Obtaining a China work visa (Z visa)
HI David....


Don't mail it to Hong Kong!!!!

I meant if you come to China first on a tourist visa, you will have to mail it back to your home country (NZ) to have a proper Z visa processed. You USED to be able to do it in Hong Kong, but for many cities that is no longer an option.

By FAR the best way to get a work visa is to do it BEFORE coming to China. Otherwise you may have no choice but to return all the way to NZ to convert it!

General » Kindergarten Fail!!! But not the end of the world!
As for my new job.......


I made a meteoric rise to Management, even now applying for a center of my own to manage, or a cross China National Manager position.....

All within 6 months of starting...

On the other hand, I have a Chinese business interest here, who wants me to come work with him and will not only buy me a car and provide excellent working hours and benefits, but also a salary that pales anything I have ever been offered in my life, NOT just in China.....

China truly is the land of opportunity! My biggest headache at the moment is which opportunity to take!!!

As far as the teaching, well, I am the favorite teacher in my center, and am told such daily. I love my awesome students and they love me! I am actually considering working part time on weekends even if I take the business job, just to keep up with my students!

Either way, its alllllll good here!!

General » Kindergarten Fail!!! But not the end of the world!
Buckland deals mostly with smaller cities all over China. They will likely give you a list of choices. People I know have ended up all over China. I chose south because I wanted the tropics. Keep in mind, it is CURRENTLY *literally as I write this* +32 degrees Celsius outside with a heat index of +40. This is enough to scare off most who are not used to massive heat. You HAVE to not mind sweating. Buckland will try to push you from that choice, simply because many end up not liking it and transferring anyways. But look at the list the give you. Hit an internet cafe and google the cities. Pick something cool you would like to know more about. After so many years in this city of 17 million I miss the smaller cities where rush hour consists of a few hundred motorcycles and bicycles, not millions of cars.

Buckland also has connections and have been in the business forever. If anyone can convert an L visa into A - Z visa, they can. MUCH easier in smaller cities, as the governments there want to encourage teachers to come.

But if you really plan to stay a couple weeks in Yangshuo, paying for it yourself, I can give this advice.

Bring $1000. - That will keep you going till your first pay and make sure you can eat and have some fun.

Make some Chinese friends immediately and go eating/shopping with them. They will help you get way better deals. They all know the score with local shops and foreigners.

REALLY easy to make friends in Yangshuo. Thousands of Chinese Adults flock to Yangshuo every year just for the chance to come practice spoken English and make foreign friends. I have known many folks who quit their jobs to go live in Yangshuo for a year, JUST to improve their English.

At lastly, don't live like a tourist. If you go to the western restaurants everyday you will pay double or triple what you should. While in China......

Test out the local restaurants with the students. Whereas you shouldn't drink the water by any means, I would recommend brushing your teeth with it and drinking tea/soup in the restaurants. The sooner your body gets used to the side effects of a new water supply the better. But eating in little local restaurants will also save you tons of money.

For example: In the little city Buckland sent me to, I found a little mom and pop restaurant, literally on the corner of the street (as in outdoors, on the street) where I could get delicious fried eggs and tomato, as many bowls of rice as I wanted, a giant bowl of vegetable soup and non stop tea for 5rmb. Not even $1! And to try to tip the old lady was an insult! She would consider a tip as you telling her she is too poor!

Needless to say my 4000rmb salary went a LONG way once I started living more local.

Another thing to consider is you don't even need to bring all that money with you and exchange it. Your bank card will work perfectly fine here and you will get a better exchange rate through the bank than a travel agent anyways. Just go to any bank of China (and now many others as well) and use your bankcard as you would back home. All the machines use english also, so no worries there.

Hope that helps!
General » Obtaining a China work visa (Z visa)

Visa's are definitely a tricky issue and can be 100% different from city to city. The laws that apply in Shenzhen right now are due to politics and the Universiade severely tightening restrictions specifically due to that alone.

It is no longer possible to even go to Hong Kong to get a Z visa for Shenzhen. You must do it (or send your passport in the mail....) from your home country.

At the moment ALL foreigners in Shenzhen are even required to carry their passports (never before in 8 years......) and show ID to even board subways.....

Once the universiade is over and the tensions die down it will get back to normal.

Till then do your homework before just grabbing a tourist visa and getting on a plane. Might just save you some headaches in the future.
General » A Canadian Question?

I have been in China 8 years (Edmontonian) and here is the scoop.

You can of course come for 9 years and teach and not lose your rights and privileges as a Canuck.


While you retain those RRSP's you will also retain your Canadian residence. As such, you WILL be expected to pay CANADIAN TAXES (30-35%) on your salary earned in China!!!

Trust me, I have talked to Rev Can SPECIFICALLY about this!!

You can keep your citizenship. but unless you want to turn over your hard earned income in China you must lose your residence. To do so you must sever all financial ties with Canada. No bank accounts, credit cards, RRSP's, property or investments. Literally there is a clause stating you must tell your friends and family you have no intention of coming back!!

personally I find this policy disgusting and unfair! US citizens can make 80,000 US dollars a year in China (literally a small fortune) before they must claim income tax. Canadians need to pay 35 cents off every dollar they earn! A gross money grab and nothing more.

For the record I am officially a non-resident and will continue to be such for the foreseeable future. The concept of paying 13% chinese tax and 35% canadian tax is not even slightly appealing to me.....
General » Obtaining a China work visa (Z visa)
Kiran. You are mistaken unfortunately. Due to new laws in MOST big cities in China, if you come on an L visa, you will HAVE to go back home and process a Z visa there. Trust me! This has happened to many people I know!!!!

An L visa will NOT get you a Z visa upon arrival anymore!!!! Coming to China looking for work on a Tourist Visa will Not Work!
Period! My 3 deported friends can attest to that!

Always ask the school/company to send you an invitation letter so you can get a proper Z visa. Always!
General » Is your work experience and skills worth anything in China?
Well said Stephen!! I like the bit about the visible underwear!

100% true too! Too many folks come to China expecting a handout or to be treated as nobility, yet walk around looking like bums and complaining about what they are "owed"!

I have been here almost a decade, speak Chinese and have done everything in my power to fit into this new culture. I am now on the cusp of starting a new and VERY lucrative career, buying a brand new car and an apartment, while supporting a family of three! None of these things I had even dreamed of back home, yet here, by earning the respect of the people and the country I have found my niche!

Glad to see its working for you too!!